Went back to old faithful cage for Nov. no-nut, gave ternence .net version of tetherspout a try for 4 days with nub cage. Went to remove spout for cleaning but had put two retaining washers on and it took 1/2 hour to slowly remove. Will relax with this g
He's so small in this cage, even compared to my fingers. And he is afraid to move, because then I will squeeze the cage and the thorns in it will dig into the flesh.